Talk:Eamonn Casey

A Christy Moore song

I'm listening now to a song about Eamon Casey killing multiple sheepdogs while to driving drunk. Does anyone know what this is based on?

The chorus is "Casey, casey, you're the divil / when you get behind the wheel / It was a sad day for the kerry sheepdogs / when your Firestone's they did feel".

It's a great song "When the poor old pope, he came to Ireland / way back in that holy time / Eamon Casey and Micheal Clery served the mass and poured the wine / Two jockey boys, they'd ride for Ireland / While preaching us morality". There are other jokes in the song about Casey wishing one of Jesus' miracles could turn his wine into water, etc. But what's the sheepdogs story? Gronky 23:11, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

• Song is by Christy Moore and was written by Martin Egan(I know both of them personally). It refers to Eamon Casey's then penchant for driving fast cars around the roads of Kerry, before he fell from grace. There are also references to Ronald Reagan's visit to Ireland and the death of Archbishop Romero, etc, etc. Very muchly set in the early '80s. I have the songwriter's email address if you *really* want to know more ... - Ali-oops^✍ 06:07, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

Dates

The date of Bishop McLoughlin's retirement is given as May 23rd, 2005 on catholic-hierarchy.org. However, this is actually the date that his successor, Dr. Martin Drennan, was appointed and not the date he became bishop. The date of Bishop McLoughlin's retiremant is July 3 when Bishop Drennan's installation took place in Galway Cathedral. Bishop McLoughlin was still bishop until that ceremony took place. A look at any of the local papers that week or a trip to the Galway Diocesan office will verify that fact. Anyway1986 01:24, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

Changes 2-11-06

I made the article neater by doing the following changes:

- I created a new section on Casey's resignation using material that was at athe start of the page before the table of contents and material from the former "Press and Popular Reaction" section.

- I renamed the "General Biography" section. (The entire page is supposed to be a general biography). Perhaps someone might be able to think of a better name than "Priesthood" - it was the best I could come up with. I added material to it that was fomerly in the the "Press and Popular Reaction" section beacuse I thought it was more relevent to this section.

- I removed the "Press and Popular Reaction". However most of the material in it is now either in the "Priesthood" section or the "Resignation section".

The article as it was seemed to about the Annie Murphy scandal with only a section about the rest of Bishop Casey's life, rather than being an article about Bishop Casey himself, as the title would suggest. I think my changes have rectified this problem. The Murphy sacndal still takes up most of the page - I don't want to undermine its importance. Anyway1986 01:24, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

• I like it! Well done on that ... :) - Alison^✍ 01:26, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

• • Yer left the funny bit in I see... Albatross2147 03:20, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

ANNIE MURPHY SCANDAL ????????????/ WTF???? It was Casey's behaviour that was scandalous... Ms. Murphy did NOT create any scandal. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.46.56.99 (talk) 00:07, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

Unfortunate phrase

When the matter became public in May 1992, Bishop Casey resigned his post. He then left for a missionary position in Ecuador.

Ummmm anyone else think this could be rephrased ?? 213.40.110.233 (talk) 18:01, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Yes, the coward ran away in the middle of the night before the story broke and hid in Ecuador afterwards. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.46.56.99 (talk) 00:05, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

Shelter

Per WP:Bio (Biography of living persons), I have deleted the text that suggests that Casey claimed to have founded Shelter. It is factually incorrect (because he didn't) and any suggestion that he might have allowed that impression to arise is not supported by citation and is thus potentially libelous. --Red King (talk) 20:13, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

Stolen Funds

Why is there no mention of the 100k which he stole from Diocesan funds ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.46.56.99 (talk) 00:09, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

First name Eamon(n)

GoogleBooks uses "Eamonn" twice as many times than "Eamon". GEEZER^{nil nisi bene} 08:28, 7 November 2014 (UTC)

Why "Abuse"?

The 'Disgrace' section of this article concerns the publicity about Casey's son and the subsequent controversy. As currently written, the section is unconnected with the diocesan sexual scandal in the linked article. I suggest that we separate these two topics, thoughts? jxm (talk)

I've reworded to address this item. Also removed the forced exile comment, which is unsupported by the given reference. jxm (talk) 21:02, 1 January 2016 (UTC)

Decline of Church Influence ?

"Casey resigned and his action is regarded as a pivotal moment when the Roman Catholic hierarchy began to lose its considerable influence over the society and politics of Ireland.[3]" RC Hierarchy influence has been declining since the Mother & Child days rather the Casey incident was probably the first instance where there was a real and clear gap between bishops preachings and bishops actions - The scandal was not so much the child out of wedlock as the abandonment and denial of that child compounded by the possible theft of Galway Diocesan funds seemingly in an attempt to continue the denial. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cobalt69 (talk • contribs) 20:00, 23 April 2016 (UTC)

Annie Murphy wasn't the start of the decline, but it was a very significant event. Hence the phrase 'pivotal moment' is reasonable. Aberdeen01 (talk) 20:12, 4 March 2017 (UTC)

Section heading: Disgrace

I wonder is the title Disgrace a good choice? The topic is how his secret love child becomes public knowledge and the consequences. What would be best? Aberdeen01 (talk) 20:12, 4 March 2017 (UTC)